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UKIP chairman hits out at planned Hove protest

by Frank le Duc
Monday 12 May, 2014 at 8:05PM
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By Tim Ridgway

Anti-fascist campaigners planning to picket a UK Independence Party (UKIP) meeting have been told they are “writing their own suicide note”.

Speaking to The Latest, Nigel Carter, chairman of Brighton and Hove UKIP, said that the gathering would be counter-productive as the more protest, the stronger support for the party gets.

The comments come as dozens of members of the UAF (Unite Against Fascism) group plan to picket the meeting at the Ralli Memorial Hall in Denmark Villas, Hove, from 7pm tomorrow (Tuesday 13 May).

Nigel Carter, chairman of Brighton and Hove UKIP, said: “I think it’s bad for the media and bad for politics to focus on the protest alone.

“We have to get away from the frippery and nonsense and get down to the issue itself of policy.

“All of this media coverage is doing us the world of good. Really they are writing their own suicide note. It’s kamikaze politics.

“I’d say to them don’t waste your time. The more they do it, the more successful we are.

“If I was them I would be saying don’t turn up and just send one person to have a silent protest. They are all out of control and they are trying to cut down on freedom of speech.”

About 100 people are expected to attend the meeting, which will discuss the party’s European election campaign.

Speakers will include south east MEP candidates Patricia Culligan and Alan Stevens.

Previous meetings in the city – at Hove Town Hall last June and Portslade Town Hall in February – have seen a large number of people turn out to protest, sparking a police presence.

A message circulated by the Stop March for England group said: “The (undeniably) racist UKIP are holding a meeting in Hove where their two South East MEP candidates are due to appear.

“Their previous two meetings in our local area have met with sizeable and vocal protests, let’s make it three in a row.”

But Mr Carter said: “It’s disgraceful that at the Hove meeting last year we had youngsters going up to poor old ladies walking in and screaming in their faces ‘racist fascist scum’.

“We have a lunatic fringe like all parties do. But anyone that says we’re all fascists is cooking up a load of nonsense.

“We’re not racist as we’re a libertarian party. They are trying to create an atmosphere out of nothing.

“It’s fakery, conjuring something out of nothing. We are probably more anti-fascist than anybody.

“We believe in small government and that government should serve people, not the other way round.”

The meeting comes a week after the Greens launched their European election campaign in Brighton.

Mr Carter said the party’s chances at the ballot box on Thursday 22 May were “tremendous”.

He added: “We are getting huge polling all across the country. People are so sick about the traditional parties who are an empty shell.

“We’re sincere and we do care about people and to us everybody matters. It’s very important that people participate in everything going on.”

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Comments 36

  1. Clyde Cash says:
    12 years ago

    UAF = Unite Against Free speech

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  2. Clyde Cash says:
    12 years ago

    UAF = Unite Against Free speech

    Reply
  3. Nancy Farrell says:
    12 years ago

    The working classes need to be informed that UKIP are Neo-Liberal and just as bad as the Conservatives or any other mainstream party. They are Anti-Working class and do not care about us, they are not libertarian they only care about the rich. All this calling them racist and fascist isn’t helping it only gives them more publicity and sympathy.

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  4. Nancy Farrell says:
    12 years ago

    The working classes need to be informed that UKIP are Neo-Liberal and just as bad as the Conservatives or any other mainstream party. They are Anti-Working class and do not care about us, they are not libertarian they only care about the rich. All this calling them racist and fascist isn’t helping it only gives them more publicity and sympathy.

    Reply
  5. mrs w says:
    12 years ago

    I am working class…but obviously with much more perception than you Nancy…stop trying to be clever it just doesn’t suit you..UKIP the only way forward…

    Reply
  6. mrs w says:
    12 years ago

    I am working class…but obviously with much more perception than you Nancy…stop trying to be clever it just doesn’t suit you..UKIP the only way forward…

    Reply
  7. Amanda Barnes says:
    12 years ago

    @Nancy Farrell, I think the working classes are more than capable of making up their own minds about UKIP, and don’t need you patronising them

    Reply
  8. Amanda Barnes says:
    12 years ago

    @Nancy Farrell, I think the working classes are more than capable of making up their own minds about UKIP, and don’t need you patronising them

    Reply
  9. Viwinner says:
    12 years ago

    Im also working class an immigrant and a UKIP candidate only party to say no to wars and bankers bailout which labour both did how working class is that? People can make up their own minds let the people talk and not have freedom of speech closed down

    Reply
  10. Viwinner says:
    12 years ago

    Im also working class an immigrant and a UKIP candidate only party to say no to wars and bankers bailout which labour both did how working class is that? People can make up their own minds let the people talk and not have freedom of speech closed down

    Reply
  11. stuey says:
    12 years ago

    The UAF are denying any verbal or physical attacks.
    Take loads of footage, film them, ignore anything they say.

    Show them for what they truly are!

    Reply
  12. stuey says:
    12 years ago

    The UAF are denying any verbal or physical attacks.
    Take loads of footage, film them, ignore anything they say.

    Show them for what they truly are!

    Reply
  13. kirk Dickenson says:
    12 years ago

    Clyde, spot on. The UAF don’t give a fig about free speech. Their leader was on the Daily Politics on Monday – he lost the debate on that show as all guests, including UKIP’s wonderful Communities spokeswoman Suzanne Evans, disagreed with him. Even he had to admit he didn’t think UKIP were fascists……..

    Just vote UKIP on May 22nd……for common sense politics!

    Reply
  14. kirk Dickenson says:
    12 years ago

    Clyde, spot on. The UAF don’t give a fig about free speech. Their leader was on the Daily Politics on Monday – he lost the debate on that show as all guests, including UKIP’s wonderful Communities spokeswoman Suzanne Evans, disagreed with him. Even he had to admit he didn’t think UKIP were fascists……..

    Just vote UKIP on May 22nd……for common sense politics!

    Reply
  15. Uncle Ruckus says:
    12 years ago

    I cannot claim to be in full accord with UKIP’s principles; however, they are a democratic political party with a bona-fide political mandate.

    I resent UAF appointing themselves as the arbiters of free speech, and attempting to prevent me from listening to a perfectly legal political argument. I believe the UAF to be a very creepy, sinister organisation and I am surprised that they get the support that they do from Cameron and Milliband

    Reply
  16. Uncle Ruckus says:
    12 years ago

    I cannot claim to be in full accord with UKIP’s principles; however, they are a democratic political party with a bona-fide political mandate.

    I resent UAF appointing themselves as the arbiters of free speech, and attempting to prevent me from listening to a perfectly legal political argument. I believe the UAF to be a very creepy, sinister organisation and I am surprised that they get the support that they do from Cameron and Milliband

    Reply
  17. Clive says:
    12 years ago

    Nigel Carter, chairman of Brighton and Hove UKIP, said: “I think it’s bad for the media and bad for politics to focus on the protest alone.

    “We have to get away from the frippery and nonsense and get down to the issue itself of policy.”

    Damn right. So when are UKIP going to announce their policies – apart from the EU being the great satan? Are they still for a 31% flat rate tax, which would see a massive shift in the tax burden from poor and middle income voters to rich ones? And if not, what would their policy be?

    Tories on steroids – avoid!

    Reply
  18. Clive says:
    12 years ago

    Nigel Carter, chairman of Brighton and Hove UKIP, said: “I think it’s bad for the media and bad for politics to focus on the protest alone.

    “We have to get away from the frippery and nonsense and get down to the issue itself of policy.”

    Damn right. So when are UKIP going to announce their policies – apart from the EU being the great satan? Are they still for a 31% flat rate tax, which would see a massive shift in the tax burden from poor and middle income voters to rich ones? And if not, what would their policy be?

    Tories on steroids – avoid!

    Reply
  19. Sally Moore says:
    12 years ago

    @Clive This is not so much about UKIP’s policies; more about how UAF is trying to stifle legal and democratic political debate.

    Reply
  20. Sally Moore says:
    12 years ago

    @Clive This is not so much about UKIP’s policies; more about how UAF is trying to stifle legal and democratic political debate.

    Reply
  21. kirk Dickenson says:
    12 years ago

    Clive, UKIP will not publish their 2015 manifesto until at least September. They rightly fear that other parties will steal their policies. Where UKIP lead, others follow, as in wind energy subsidies needing to be cut, immigration needing proper control and benefits not handed out to new migrants. These changes are only happening because of UKIP pressure.

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  22. kirk Dickenson says:
    12 years ago

    Clive, UKIP will not publish their 2015 manifesto until at least September. They rightly fear that other parties will steal their policies. Where UKIP lead, others follow, as in wind energy subsidies needing to be cut, immigration needing proper control and benefits not handed out to new migrants. These changes are only happening because of UKIP pressure.

    Reply
  23. Millim says:
    12 years ago

    UAF are just Labour’s ‘Red Guards’ who will intimidate, assault and smash up anyone who doesn’t fall in line with Labour Party policy… Labour are a truly totalitarian party who have invaded 2 middle class countries. UAF represent the real Labour movement. Don’t vote Labour!!!

    Reply
  24. Millim says:
    12 years ago

    UAF are just Labour’s ‘Red Guards’ who will intimidate, assault and smash up anyone who doesn’t fall in line with Labour Party policy… Labour are a truly totalitarian party who have invaded 2 middle class countries. UAF represent the real Labour movement. Don’t vote Labour!!!

    Reply
  25. Julia Green says:
    12 years ago

    In London last week, there were lots of black and Asian UKIP supporters being called racist by white protestors!!!! Oh the irony!!!! LOL

    Reply
  26. Julia Green says:
    12 years ago

    In London last week, there were lots of black and Asian UKIP supporters being called racist by white protestors!!!! Oh the irony!!!! LOL

    Reply
  27. Uncle Ruckus says:
    12 years ago

    I would like to know who is really behind the ‘usefully idiots’ that are UAF.

    It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

    Something doesn’t seem right; who is REALLY pulling UAF’s strings?

    Reply
  28. Uncle Ruckus says:
    12 years ago

    I would like to know who is really behind the ‘usefully idiots’ that are UAF.

    It seems more than coincidence that as soon as it seems obvious that UKIP will make massive political gains at the forthcoming Euro elections, Unite Against Free speech crawl-out from underneath their rock and start making a nuisance of themselves wherever UKIP are meetings are taking place.

    Something doesn’t seem right; who is REALLY pulling UAF’s strings?

    Reply
  29. Ramjet says:
    12 years ago

    I went to watch the March for England a couple of weeks ago. There were lots of Socialist W**ker and Unite Against Freedom placard wavers screaming that the marchers were not welcome in Brighton, yet moments later they did their best to prevent the marchers from leaving Brighton, deliberately blocking the routes to the train station. Obviously they don’t do irony and they wouldn’t know a fascist from a flamingo. I think there is something very sinister about their agenda but I would surmise most of their followers are motivated more by the thrill of violence and causing damage to other people’s property than any firmly held political beliefs, let alone knowledge.

    Reply
  30. Ramjet says:
    12 years ago

    I went to watch the March for England a couple of weeks ago. There were lots of Socialist W**ker and Unite Against Freedom placard wavers screaming that the marchers were not welcome in Brighton, yet moments later they did their best to prevent the marchers from leaving Brighton, deliberately blocking the routes to the train station. Obviously they don’t do irony and they wouldn’t know a fascist from a flamingo. I think there is something very sinister about their agenda but I would surmise most of their followers are motivated more by the thrill of violence and causing damage to other people’s property than any firmly held political beliefs, let alone knowledge.

    Reply
  31. mr Smith says:
    12 years ago

    it seems to have been not that bad.. i dont know why so many police had to be present could they not have been ” just a little way away in another street waiting for any issues to come..”

    Reply
  32. mr Smith says:
    12 years ago

    it seems to have been not that bad.. i dont know why so many police had to be present could they not have been ” just a little way away in another street waiting for any issues to come..”

    Reply
  33. Charles Barnsfarnce says:
    12 years ago

    The Guardian published an article a few weeks ago saying that UKIP cannot be compared with right wing or racist parties such as BNP. The fact that the hard left no longer try to mislead the public about what UKIP stand for represents a healthy shift in British politics. If you Google UAF you will find a list of supporters and included in the list is David Cameron and the late Anthony Wedgewood-Benn. UAF anfd their affilaites appear to be being used by the establishment to try to counter a very British revolution that threatens vested interests and cronyism shared by the old establishment parties.

    Reply
  34. Charles Barnsfarnce says:
    12 years ago

    The Guardian published an article a few weeks ago saying that UKIP cannot be compared with right wing or racist parties such as BNP. The fact that the hard left no longer try to mislead the public about what UKIP stand for represents a healthy shift in British politics. If you Google UAF you will find a list of supporters and included in the list is David Cameron and the late Anthony Wedgewood-Benn. UAF anfd their affilaites appear to be being used by the establishment to try to counter a very British revolution that threatens vested interests and cronyism shared by the old establishment parties.

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  35. kirk Dickenson says:
    12 years ago

    Totally agree Charles……….they are stooges for vested interests……interested in keeping UKIP out of their boys club up in Westminster! Too late, the snowball is gathering momentum: the genie is out of the bottle…..the milk has been spilt, no use crying about it now! Like the atom bomb – UKIP can’t be un- made!

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  36. kirk Dickenson says:
    12 years ago

    Totally agree Charles……….they are stooges for vested interests……interested in keeping UKIP out of their boys club up in Westminster! Too late, the snowball is gathering momentum: the genie is out of the bottle…..the milk has been spilt, no use crying about it now! Like the atom bomb – UKIP can’t be un- made!

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