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Hundreds sign petition calling for resident parking

Fresh plea follows rejection of parking zone covering wider area

by Sarah Booker-Lewis - local democracy reporter
Wednesday 29 Nov, 2023 at 7:47PM
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One of Brighton’s last restriction-free areas asked if they want permit parking

Davey Drive

Almost 300 people have called for parking permits in their area after councillors agreed to shelve a proposed scheme just last month.

People living in the southern part of Hollingdean want resident parking because the area is surrounded by other controlled parking zones.

This has led to pressure on spaces in Hollingdean as schemes in neighbouring areas displace drivers in search of free parking.

The petition, signed by 280 people, is due to be presented to Brighton and Hove City Council’s Transport and Sustainability Committee next Tuesday (5 December).

The same committee agreed to halt progress on a proposed parking scheme at its meeting last month because 60 per cent of the 758 people who responded to a consultation were against a controlled parking zone.

The petitioners said that people living in Hollingbury Crescent, Hollingbury Place and The Crossway – and roads to the south – had consistently favoured a parking scheme.

The petition said: “A residents’ parking scheme is desperately needed to ensure residents’ safety when crossing busy roads, enable residents to have the freedom to park more easily in their area and improve air pollution levels by reducing through traffic and engine idling from increased traffic utilising one of the only free parking areas left in Brighton.

“We propose a resident parking scheme in South Hollingdean be implemented, with residents already having voted in the majority for such a scheme.

“We suggest the reconsideration of a light-touch scheme, reduced parking bays for paid visitor parking by 50 per cent, as well as diagonal parking bays in closes off Davey Drive to maximise spaces for residents who do not have a driveway.”

A list of issues facing residents in the area was set out on the petition. They include

  • Illegal parking on double yellow lines, both unattended and attended vehicles, particularly around Hollingdean Terrace, Hollingbury Place and Roedale Road
  • Dangerous parking on grass verges in Horton Road and Davey Drive which has led to blocked bus routes
  • Nose-to-nose parking which has contributed to vehicle damage as well as blocking access to resident driveways
  • Frequent traffic with both short and long-term parking of large diesel vehicles, including commercial vans and trucks, as well as residential camper vans and motorhomes
  • Inability to park in the late afternoon or from early evening across the whole of southern Hollingdean, leading to increased anxiety and reduced freedoms for residents, as well as increased traffic from vehicles circling for spaces
  • Increased fumes from excessive vehicle movements from commuters, visitors and residents living outside the area, with frequent idling of engines for excessive periods when parking and leaving the area

The petition is open on the council website until the meeting starts.

The Transport and Sustainability Committee is due to meet at Hove Town Hall at 4pm on Tuesday (5 December). The meeting is scheduled to be webcast on the council’s website.

 

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Comments 40

  1. Helen Redress says:
    2 years ago

    Hopefully the council take note, so many residents are struggling and fed up with the area being left out and left to be a free car park for the rest of Brighton. It’s not sustainable and not fair on residents suffering increased pollution, noise, and dangerous roads as a result.

    Reply
    • Robins Sam says:
      2 years ago

      So let’s turn it into another pay to park car park for residents
      And news Flash
      Permit parking isn’t going going to make any difference to ” polution ” and if you are so concerned about ” polution : get rid of your car…..

      Reply
      • Helen Redress says:
        2 years ago

        Reducing the number of vehicles in an area, including commercial vans and trucks, when the bulk of nitrogen dioxide is known to come from diesel tailpipe emissions, and engine idling, which is often excessive when parking raises those emissions, will make a difference to air pollution. It might not be the only solution that’s needed, but it is one that will contribute to cleaner air for residents.

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      • Simmo says:
        2 years ago

        Do you live in Hollingdean, if not can you move your campervan to where you live

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    • Catherine says:
      2 years ago

      The council need to reconsider for sure. By not having parking permits everywhere, the parking problem just gets moved. It’s impossible to park in Hollingdean, especially at night and this just leads to dangerous parking. It will also stop the traders with vans who leave their vans overnight and their cars during the day!

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      • Mark says:
        1 year ago

        unfortunately, won’t stop overnight parking so go for Light Touch. It does stop commuter traffic and long term parking

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    • Jen says:
      2 years ago

      We don’t need any more resident parking. The petition is attempting emotional blackmail.

      Reply
    • Mark says:
      1 year ago

      Yes, its true BUT the most effective and kindest method is the Light Touch because it stops commuters and long term van parking yet allows friends and relatives to visit and allows people to pop into the corner shops.
      When I look at the existing resident parking in other areas they are mostly unoccupied during working hours yet visitors cant use those spaces. Also, it does not help the parking problems after 8pm.
      Lets be kind and considerate and offer light touch, it works elsewhere.

      Reply
  2. Julie says:
    2 years ago

    I’m hopeful that the council will reconsider their decision and revisit on a street by street basis and open up the consultation on the design so it reflects the residents needs. We’re all fed up and although don’t really support paying to park in the road we live in there really doesn’t seem to be much of an alternative. I’d support a light touch as one of the main issues is non resident parking. Just this evening a car has parked outside the house, the driver jumps out with a suitcase and bags and her friend arrives to pick her up! This car will now not move for a few weeks.

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    • daniel king says:
      2 years ago

      totally agree with you fed up of students and others leaving their cars outside mine for weeks and even months and .ost of the time badly parked,aswell as cars without car tax or mot,also numerous vehicles from st richards taking up valuable spaces outside disabled bungalows on most days

      Reply
      • Mark says:
        1 year ago

        Light touch will do the trick without hindering friends and relatives visiting and customers popping into the corner shops

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    • Mark says:
      1 year ago

      I agree. Light touch would stop that

      Reply
  3. Margaret Simmonds says:
    2 years ago

    I am unable to go out at nighttime in my car as I know there will be no space to park on my return. We have a number of 2 car families who live near using our spaces for one of the cars and a permit in their area for the other vehicle. It is time for our misery to end after 6 years of trying to get parking permits.

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  4. Robins Sam says:
    2 years ago

    Turkeys voting for Christmas
    The selfish minority don’t like the outcome of a democratic vote .
    So demand its looked at again
    Several closes in holljngdean will have zero parking due to the small area …..but as long as the yummy mummy’s can park their 4×4’s they drive 2 yards down the road to take their kids to school it’s OK

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    • Helen Redress says:
      2 years ago

      The petition demonstrates majority support in South Hollingdean for resident’s parking control. Over 280 residents wanting safer roads, easier parking in their streets, and a cleaner, nicer place to live, that isn’t a free car park for the rest of Brighton, is not a ‘selfish minority’.

      Reply
      • Mark says:
        1 year ago

        Actually, the petition was not worded correctly since it said “the 2023 survey results still held a majority in favour” yet 6 months earlier it was recorded then only around 40% wanted it. Also, it did not give any light touch option so would not be representative.

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  5. Simon Philips says:
    2 years ago

    Every area that has parking permits foisted on them has about 3-4,000 people. Yet because a few hundred wanted it, they put £180 extra on permit holders council tax!
    And remember, once a charge is on,there’s only one direction it will go in!
    Up!
    Proves turkeys do vote for Christmas in the UK!

    Reply
    • R.Hk says:
      2 years ago

      The system for renewing permits has glitches that leave residents liable for accruing parking fines and doesn’t allow residents to contact a human to resolve any issue.

      Our permits have risen from £160 to well over £400 in past 2 years.

      High cost of annual permit has necessited resorting to quarterly permit purchase and these are rising steeply in cost with each renewal.

      The whole system is pernicious for the less wealthy in the community who require a vehicle for their work and/or have mobility needs that are outside of blue badge access.

      Reply
  6. Car Delenda Est says:
    2 years ago

    Times like this make you glad to be a cyclist

    Reply
  7. Desmond Seeto says:
    2 years ago

    The current no permit zone in all of Hollingdean has created dangerous, reckless and inconsiderate driver behaviour into our neighbourhood. People from surrounding areas use this as a free-for-all parking and the ramifications to rate paying residents are above simmering and will likely erupt into accidents, injuries, disruption and disputes. I too am reluctant to drive my car at nights for fear of having no parking when I return home; residents shouldn’t feel imprisoned in ones own home. I empathise with those that find the cost prohibitive though strongly believe that implementing permit parking will benefit the greater good of residents.

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    • Nicholas Key says:
      2 years ago

      I agree absolutely with Mr Seeto, as a resident of this area I am reluctant to move my car at weekends or after 6pm as I frequently have found myself having to park on other roads, sometimes quite a walk away with two young children (in the dark, rain, with shopping etc!) to walk back to my house. This is not acceptable and is causing a major problem for all residents of this sub-area. Paid permits for residents only at reasonable prices is the only solution to this unfortunately and something must be done soon.

      Reply
    • Anne says:
      2 years ago

      I think at first, people didn’t realise the impact of having controlled zones near them. Some drivers are obviously going to gravitate to where it’s a free for all, and that’s sadly happened in your area. I live near there, and even though we have restricted parking, people still try swinging the lead. Good Luck!

      Reply
  8. Max says:
    2 years ago

    Hope the council keep it free.
    Getting ripped off at £52 every 3 months..sick joke. Some of us need cars for work.

    Reply
  9. Jay says:
    2 years ago

    I feel for you, I live on estate in hove on the portslade boarder. Our road is also one of the few roads left with free parking. It’s a nightmare to park. Particularly on a Friday. I think 2 car households come and park one of their cars free for the whole weekend without moving it, using their other car, I have a drive but can’t use it because I either can’t get in or I get blocked on it and can’t use my car at all. Before the surrounding streets were changed we all had a space, as neighbours we respected each others usual space, we still try to but it is very difficult and leads to a breakdown in relationships in the community. I will gladly sign your petion to show solidarity.

    Reply
  10. Charlie Jones says:
    2 years ago

    Just have timed restrictions like in Hove. Permit only 11 to 12pm and 5 to 6pm or whatever. It works.

    Reply
  11. Chris says:
    2 years ago

    So the people that “lost” the consultation have signed a petition. How is this worthy of consideration ?

    How about not having CPZs at all ?

    Reply
    • Helen Redress says:
      2 years ago

      The petition is for a smaller proposed zone to be taken forward in South Hollingdean where support for a resident’s parking scheme has always been in the majority. Those roads who previously voted against a scheme have been removed from the proposed area that’s being suggested here.

      Reply
  12. Simon McGill says:
    2 years ago

    I think the thing that many in the comments here seem to be missing (or outright ignoring) is that this petition is for a relatively small area of Hollingdean. This isn’t an area that ‘lost’ the consultation, this is an area where a massive majority of respondents voted in favour (and have done so consistently for seven or eight years), but were outnumbered by streets to the North who don’t experience the same problems, and don’t see the value in controlling who (and when) can park on their streets.

    What I find most interesting about this is the numbers. In the last ‘full’ Hollingdean consultation there was about 750 respondents in total. Here, there’s a petition that covers at most around 800 houses, and it already has 300 signatures… that should tell you enough.

    Good for them.

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  13. Alan M says:
    2 years ago

    Doesn’t matter what the Council tell you it won’t happen. In London Road area most Disabled Bays were removed for Social Distancing with a promise they would be put back as reported in The Argus. However, this was never going to be the case as decided in Committee. As soon as Disabled Bays were removed, bus stops and other permanent fixtures like Push Bike Rental Racks were installed. Now because Council have removed all parking in Francis Street, residents with Blue Badges feel they have a right to block park in available Disabled Bays for days on end. The problem is getting worse.

    Reply
  14. John 53 says:
    2 years ago

    I live on one of the streets mentioned and I said no to parking restrictions. I own my house, but I don’t own the public stretch of road outside my house. No one in my house owns a car, but twice a week my child’s other parent drops my child off to my home and we often chat for 10 minutes. With parking restrictions this will no longer be possible. Parking enforcement officers will be patrolling and slap a ticket on their car / prevent brief double parking. Someone else will feel ‘entitled’ because they have paid, to the space outside my house. Like I said, it’s public space, it belongs to the public. Not me, not the neighbours, many of which have several cars!

    Reply
    • TF Bundy says:
      2 years ago

      They really won’t. I live not far from you in a zone with parking permits. No one gets a ticket for stopping for a few minutes. The system actually works pretty well. My parking costs me 38p a day, and there are always spaces.

      Reply
  15. David Philpott says:
    2 years ago

    Go for a light touch scheme at your peril. Make it as harsh as possible(all day for non residents, rather than an hour here/there) if you want to park reasonably freely, as a resident.

    Reply
  16. Michael barry says:
    2 years ago

    EVERYTIME , THERE’S A RESIDENTS MEETING HARDLY ANYONE TURNS UP , INSTEAD THEY WHINGE ON HER OUR ELECTED COUNCILLORS ALSO FAIL TO TURN UP ON A REGULAR BASIS AS THEY LIVE ON A YACHT IN THE MARINA , HAVE NO CONNECTION TO HOLLINGDEAN AND DON’ T GIVE A TOSS ABOUT US THE 50 BUS SERVICE IS THE WORST IN THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE , THE JUNKIES COME FROM AFAR TO GET THEIR DRUGS , CARS ARE ALL PARKED ALL OVER TO THE PLACE , THE GRAFITTI AND ANTI SOCIAL BEHAVIOUR IS OUT OF CONTROL ETC , ETC ,ETC POWER TO THE PEOPLE

    Reply
    • Brian Simmonds says:
      2 years ago

      Honestly, our councillors are an absolute embarrassment. Career wannabes and non-residents using Hollingdean as a stepping stone in their political career. Fowler sold be utterly ashamed that our water is being reduced to this state under her watch.

      Reply
  17. Paula says:
    2 years ago

    This is how it works. Permit zones are created in one area and the parking ‘problem’ just shifts sideways. Rinse and repeat. Hey presto all the areas are now permit controlled with the same number of spaces still present with the bonus that all are now permit controlled. Everyone wins, well the councils bank account does. Good game?

    Reply
    • Benjamin says:
      2 years ago

      It’s a fairly reductive perspective to it, since not all zones are created equal to a free parking area with the various parking types, and resident only zones, some are paid, etc.

      Reply
  18. David says:
    2 years ago

    I’ve been working in Brighton as an estate agent for more than thirty years. As you might appreciate, I know our city very well indeed. I am surprised that it has come to this; the situation when it comes to parking in Hollingdean is by far and away the worst I’ve ever seen both in my career and across the city.

    Reply
    • Benjamin says:
      2 years ago

      What’s the solution from your perspective?

      Reply
  19. G Stephan says:
    2 years ago

    The whole parking scheme across the entire city should be scrapped.
    Parking should be free across the whole city. No restrictions. You park where you want to and have to.

    Reply
    • Benjamin says:
      2 years ago

      That’s been considered before, it was concluded that it would be disastrous for the city.

      Reply

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