People living in the northern end of Hollingdean will have a third chance to share their views on a controlled parking scheme.
Hollingdean resident Justin Newland presented a petition, with 345 signatures, to Brighton and Hove City Council at Hove Town Hall yesterday (Thursday 23 July).
It highlighted concerns about dangerous parking and driving, saying that problems in the area had increased since a controlled parking zone was introduced at the southern end of Hollingdean earlier this year.
The petition, which was on the council website, asked for a consultation on parking arrangements in the northern part of Hollingdean to be reopened.
Supporters want to give people the option of a residents’ parking permit scheme throughout the area as a way to try to deal with the problems from displaced parking.
Mr Newland said: “Residents in North Hollingdean have seen a significant increase in non-resident parking on local roads which has also led to dangerous driving and an increase in traffic.
“It’s caused lots of safety issues for young children trying to get to school.
“We’ve had lots of inconsiderate parking since the scheme was introduced. We’ve got drivers driving around constantly looking for spaces.”
He said that families with young children and the elderly were struggling to park near their homes.
Labour councillor Trevor Muten, the council’s cabinet member for transport and sustainability, said that those affected would have a third and final opportunity to have their say on a parking permit scheme by the end of the summer.
Councillor Muten said: “Residents were advised that if a parking scheme was introduced in the south, indeed without a corresponding scheme in North Hollingdean, there was a possibility that parking demand and vehicle displacement could increase in the surrounding streets.
“Despite this, the majority of respondents in North Hollingdean on both occasions indicated that they did not wish to see any changes to the existing parking arrangements.”
The second consultation was carried out after people in the southern part of Hollingdean lobbied to have a controlled parking zone when the initial consultation showed a geographical split between those living north and south of Hollingdean Place, known as The Dip.
A third chance to agree with what the council wants, and people will keep on being given chances until they do agree!
If parking has got worse since the introduction of a new neighbouring parking zone, then get that zone removed, don’t just shift the problem uphill and commit to paying hundreds of pounds per year for permits. I guarantee that visiting friends and family will get parking fines. And I bet you will too for a hire or loan car when yours goes in for repair.
Residents’ parking schemes are a tax.
I think those people who voted for a scheme would be pretty frustrated if they saw the return of the parking problems though. What was very clear when a light touch scheme was introduced near me was just how many people from outside the area were leaving their cars there all day (or longer) eg to use the train station nearby. Removing zones will just see that issue return – if people buy cars – those cars have to go somewhere – that’s a decision we as individuals make. There is the ability to get a temporary permit if you are using a different car – when I replaced my old one, I applied on line and the change was almost instant. Its also worth mentioning that the monies from the parking scheme have to be spent on transport – so bus passes, and I would imagine things like subsidies to certain routes, perhaps things like the new scheme for free travel for care leavers and the old 50p off peak child ticket scheme which was subsidised by the council. Tax funds decent public services. I should also mention a friend lives in this area and says its an absolute nightmare esp in the evenings – you just cannot find a space. No such issues where I am in a full CPZ – it is worth it for that ability to park easily. The only way this will change is if large numbers give up their cars – would you do that?
It’ll only move the problem to the next zone and so on. This is exact what the council wants as it’s all a money grab
Where exactly? The Wild park? There aren’t any houses past Hollingdean.
Residents don’t want a controlled parking scheme. It’s just an excuse for the useless council to extort more money from people because they waste it on vanity projects and wokery.
Controlled parking should be reversed in all areas not just Hollingdean. The council should make it free like it was before and stop making roads narrow which just causes congestion.
#LabourOut
A free for all would objectively be one of the worst things a city could ever do for visitors, residents, tourists, business, everyone. 🤦🤦🤦
Not true. Visitors and businesses are crying out for free or at least affordable parking in Brighton. People are now avoiding the city to shop elsewhere and they find parking is cheaper and they can get in and out of a city centre with ease.
The residents were not warned about the possibility of it becoming a problem if the permits were increased in the South. There was one line in the small print that most probably didn’t even spot. What we need is a proper discussion not another one size fits all consultation which will result in the same arguments and issues.
There were MULTIPLE letters and petitions for and against through the doors, all of which mentioned it extremely prominently. You had to REALLY TRY not to know.
Not last time there weren’t. Not in my road. I desperately want a proper discussion. Not some hysterical letters or petitions run by people who live by Fiveways who want to keep the free parking for their extra cars and camper vans. A proper discussion about why we should be able to park outside our homes without problems. And why the Council can’t see that different roads have different needs. Not all of Hollingdean has the same problems and there are lots of people who will struggle with the cost. The Council need a solution for all of us. Not just a blanket offer that satisfies no one. We need more information, public meetings and a guarantee that only people & businesses in the affected area will get a say.
This simply is not true. The council was very clear. This taken directly from the previous North Hollingdean consultation:
“If residents in the south area vote in favour of a parking scheme while your area votes against it, there is a risk that vehicles will be moved onto roads just outside the new scheme’s boundary. “
The solution is to give up the cars and use Brighton and Hove great bus service or even better walk like humans used to and there would be a double benefit of having less obesity in the population.
Great idea but the bus service in Brighton & Hove isn’t good enough. I can’t use it for everything I do including work.
Great idea but the bus service in Brighton & Hove isn’t good enough. I can’t use it for everything I do including work.
It’s been obvious from the very beginning of this saga that the solution is for the whole of Hollingdean to be under a cheaper ‘light-touch’ scheme. But the council did not allow that to be an option in the consultation, leading to the people in the north of the ward understandably voting no, and the people in the south of the ward voting yes, as they were desperate for any solution, even the expensive full scheme which the council was offering.
There’s a big issue here with Labour just not listening to residents.
Democratic Services refused a petition of over 1,250 signatures for council debate yesterday yet admitted four petitions under the 1,250 (local) signature threshold including yours. Congratulations on getting yours heard and, even more miraculously, the action you wanted taken.
Could it be the Council stands to profit from granting you a third CPZ consultation, but doesn’t want to hear the petitions or listen to the residents they won’t profit from?
‘When will these dumb Brighton peasants ever learn, if they voted for what we, their lord and masters of Brighton council, wanted in the first vote, then we wouldn’t need to keep repeating the vote until we get the outcome we want ‘
This is how the council enforces city wide parking permits!
Continuous questionnaires until they get the result they want!
They are making living in Brighton unbearable!
What’s making life in Brighton unbearable is too many cars!
Get some space by fining offenders into oblivion, tax, mot, insurance all of it, take all of them off the road and a lot of space becomes available, grab their wages, their benefits anything financial, get the money back and the roads free’d up, the DVLA checker is open to everyone, check the non resdents in your street, it won ‘t take long for spaces to become available.