Brighton and Hove MPs join debate on riots

Posted On 11 Aug 2011 at 7:34 pm

Two of Brighton and Hove’s three MPs spoke in the debate about the riots in the House of Commons today after Parliament was recalled.

Mike Weatherley, the Conservative MP for Hove, and Caroline Lucas, the Green MP for Brighton Pavilion, both put questions to Prime Minister David Cameron.

Simon Kirby, the Conservative MP for Brighton Kemptown, attended the debate but was not called to speak. He later wrote to constituents.

In the Commons Dr Lucas referred to the Scarman Report, which followed the riots in Brixton and other parts of the country in 1981.

She said: “Violence is always to be condemned, but as the Prime Minister said, seeking to understand violence is a world away from seeking to justify it.

“Indeed, we ought to try to understand it to stop it happening in future.

“Given the growing evidence, from Scarman onwards, that increasing inequality has a role to play in drawing at least some people into violent behaviour, can the Prime Minister reassure the House that comprehensive impact assessments will be undertaken before his government introduce any more policies that increase inequality?”

Mr Cameron said: “Everyone wants to see a fairer and more equal country but I have to say to the honourable lady that young people smashing down windows and stealing televisions is not about inequality.”

Lenient

Mr Weatherley said: “As chair of the All-Party Group on Retail and Business Crime, I can tell the Prime Minister that retailers’ biggest concern is lenient sentences.

“Will he assure them that sentencing terms will increase, and will he come along to the group’s next meeting on 8 September to advise us of the progress on that since this debate?”

Mr Cameron replied: “I might want to send the Business Secretary, or someone from the Business Department, to that meeting, but my honourable friend makes a very important point that businesses want not only to see the people who perpetrated the looting prosecuted and convicted, but to work even more closely with the police to protect their premises.

“I have heard that from many businesses, and from multiple chains, some of which had their stores attacked in many different places on the same day.”

Mr Kirby said in a letter to constituents: “It is important to play tribute to the police for the difficulties they have faced in recent days as well as the individuals and families who have been so badly affected by recent events.

“It is important now that those who have perpetrated crimes of violence, arson and looting are brought to justice and that the punishment they receive for their crimes matches the severity of the actions they have undertaken.

“People have a right to lead their lives without fear or the threat of intimidation.

“So many people have witnessed those rights being swept aside in recent days.

“Proper punishment which reflects the severity of the crimes undertaken is a way to restore faith in those parts of our way of life.

“It is important also to ensure that each person within the United Kingdom has the ability to excel with the talents that they have and the government’s reforms to schools, training and the overarching policy to stabilise and rebalance the economy should lead to greater opportunities for all citizens from whatever walk of life they come.

“We have an open, democratic system which enables citizens’ view to be heard and therefore there can be no excuse for any further violence or damage to property.

“I hope people from all communities will now join together to find a way forward so that a sense of shared responsibility and mutual respect will emerge in order to take forward our country in a peaceful and harmonious way.”

  1. Valerie Paynter, saveHOVE Reply

    I’m not happy with all the political point-scoring opportunism that the riots have inspired.

    Waving agendas in the air and breast-beating is what I’m seeing at a time of national sorrow and trauma in the face of huge devastation and long-term consequences for the victims.

    I can almost hear the carefree cackling of those who rioted and looted and burned down high streets as – after its all over and the flashmob rioters have been there and done that and moved on – the government ‘talks tough’.

    These rioters are immune to threat, immune to caring about criminal records, immune to fear of jailing. They don’t care. End of. Full Stop. They have zero respect for anything beyond the priorities of the moment.

    It is their blunted emotional response to others, their absolute contempt for order and what we call morality we need to read and understand and address. There seems no remorse, just the new thrill of following the media and politicians dancing attendance and squawking loudly. Perhaps this is what is keeping them off the streets now!

    The Prime Minister got one thing right: this is about culture and THEIR acculturated values that were in play, not those of politicians and pundits and the law’n order breatbeaters.

    Addressing that is the vertical cliff-face this nation now has to climb before the incoming tide swamps the option.

    It begins with earning respect from youth by providing responsible, accountable parenting and schooling and I don’t see that we have enough of either. And an end to the greed and gamesmanship of irresponsible adults starting wars, trashing the planet and bankers and big-money gamblers playing the markets – profiteering unfairly everywhere they can without punishment.

    We can no longer tell the kids “Don’t do as I do; do as I say” and demand ‘respect’.

    In his film, M. Verdoux, Charlie Chaplin said “…despair is a narcotic, and it lulls the mind to indifference”. The kids look too much to me like they have embraced moral despair.

    What can the government and our MP’s do about that?

  2. Aaa Reply

    Well done David Cameron, that told Caroline Lucas

  3. son of chomsky Reply

    how much to cost to re-call HoC? Did the MP’s get overtime to turn up?

  4. Aaa Reply

    Caroline Lucas must have been annoyed to come back from the safety of Brussels

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