Request to audit councillors’ expenses rebuffed

A call for a closer look at councillors’ expenses claims has been turned down at a meeting this afternoon (Tuesday 25 January).

Conservative councillor Anne Meadows asked for an audit of councillors dependent carer allowance expenses for the past two full financial years.

She said that she was concerned about the use of public money after media reports relating to two members of Brighton and Hove City Council.

But at a meeting of the council’s Audit and Standards Committee, the chair, Labour councillor Daniel Yates, said that there no evidence of wrongdoing.

Councillor Yates, the former leader of the council, said that evidence was essential rather than just “people saying bad things” about councillors.

Councillor Meadows said that news reports and the commentary around them showed a “loss of confidence” from the public which needed to be restored.

She said: “If councillors are out of the city, and we have a number, and they are not serving their constituents, then we are still paying for them.

“More particularly, if they are claiming childcare when not attending meetings, we should be aware of that.”

When Councillor Yates refused the request at the meeting at Hove Town Hall, Councillor Meadows asked whether it was a case of Labour supporting and covering for the Greens.

He replied that officers had assured him that all applications for allowances were checked before the money was paid out – and that there was no evidence of wrongdoing or grounds for an audit.

Councillor Yates said: “Just going out there and saying bad things about people because we don’t like them doesn’t make them bad people and doesn’t make things wrong and doesn’t make it true.

“Truth requires evidence – and it needs to be demonstrated. If you can bring forward evidence, I’m completely prepared to consider alternative routes. I’m ruling nothing out. I’m just saying there is no evidence.”

The request for an audit of expenses for the past two financial years followed questions about Green councillor Alex Phillips’s claims.

The expenses claims relate to her year as mayor when she also sat as an MEP (Member of the European Parliament) for South East England.

Councillor Tom Druitt with Councillor Alex Phillips and their son when she was mayor

Councillor Phillips claimed £1,799.96 in dependent carer allowances in 2019-20 and £1,458 in 2020-21.

Her husband, fellow Green councillor Tom Druitt, claimed £53.55 in dependent carer allowances in 2019-20.

The couple have a four-year-old son and an infant daughter.

They have also come under fire for spending much of the first lockdown in 2020 and last Christmas at their holiday home in France.

After the revelations of their lockdown abroad, one local voter, Laura King, asked how councillors could continue representing people in Brighton and Hove when they were not living here.

At a council meeting last October she questioned whether they were entitled to claim child care expenses.

At the time, the Green council leader Phélim Mac Cafferty said that the allowances were adopted based on the recommendation of an independent remuneration panel and helped “banish the days when councillors were just old men”.

Councillor Phélim Mac Cafferty

Councillor Druitt also dismissed claims that his family was wealthy when the controversy surfaced last year, saying that he used to live in a bus.

In the 2019-20 financial year, Labour councillor Nick Childs was the only other councillor to claim the carers allowance.

The father of two claimed £364.50 in 2019-20 and £85 in the year to 2020-21.

Councillors received a basic allowance of £13,359.60 last year and additional money for extra responsibilities.

The council leader, Councillor Mac Cafferty, received the highest “special responsibility allowance” – £26,629.39 – considerably less than the six-figure salaries paid to the council’s most senior officials.

The dependent carer allowance was set at £9 an hour after an independent review of councillors’ allowances for 2019-23.

Claims are limited to £1,800 a year, which covers 200 hours a year, and the allowance is set at a similar level to other councils.

  1. Silas Reply

    All seems decidedly dodgy.
    What have they got to hide?!
    The plot thickens . . .

  2. Chaz. Reply

    “Labour councillor Daniel Yates, said that there no evidence of wrongdoing.”
    The whole point of on investigation is to look at the evidence and see if there is any wrong doing.
    Oh wait, Labour shut that down, surprise.
    Labour looking after Greens and vice versa.

  3. Daniel Harris Reply

    We are talking less than the minimum wage here for councillors, that is why a lot get on various boards to boost it, and have first jobs! in comparison a BHCC customer service agent will be on a similar income as an elected councillor.

    I would just salary them all and remove expenses. A basic wage for being a councillor, any extra ambitions they may have should not recieve additional money. £35k is a fair salary. That will cost the electorate £2m ish. There should be a minimum of 39 hours worked across the working week, and primary work, such as resident involvement and case work should make up at least 1/2 of their time. This gives everyone a level playing field. I would then ban additional jobs, many have them, ban expenses, ban gifts.

    • Chaz. Reply

      No more local, professional, Green politicians thank you Daniel.
      They knew the job they were getting into and that it has no salary.
      It is on websites and on their applications but copied below for you.
      Funny how we only hear the Greens bleating about it.
      Clearly they are not in it for the public service, just the public purse.

      “Councillors are not paid a salary or wages, but they are entitled to claim allowances and expenses to cover some of the costs of carrying out their public duties. All councillors receive an annual allowance.”

    • Martin Burt Reply

      Daniel Harris
      And we’re talking about someone who owns a bus company and can afford to spend months in France, not sure they did many public duties in France do you.
      Also very strange how some contracted bus work just happened to find it’s way to said bus owner, being nobody else could deliver an emergency service, odd that all over the county buses sat idle with drivers being paid to sit at home.
      You work it out chum.

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