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Green tile pub owner makes third appeal

by Jo Wadsworth
Monday 15 Jul, 2024 at 5:17PM
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Brighton’s pub ‘vandal’ has history of not paying freelancers

Charlie Southall handing out leaflets as his friends begin to hack tiles off the Montreal Arms

A millionaire developer who ripped tiles off a Brighton pub has appealed against a council ruling for the third time.

Charlie Southall last month secured permission to restore the Montreal Arms on Albion Hill and its distinctive green tiled frontage, which he paid friends to rip off in April 2022.

But an alternative application to change the placement of the tiles and turn the pub into a cafe, bakery or co-working space was refused.

This followed the dismissal of appeals against an enforcement notice requiring him to reinstate the tiles, and the council’s designation of the pub as an asset of community value (ACV).

In granting permission for the pub scheme, the council said it was likely it would put on hold any moves to uphold the enforcement notice – the deadline for which is this week – to allow time for work to progress.

Now, he is appealing the refusal of the cafe scheme, saying that concerns over the loss of the building’s architectural and historic interest are unfounded.

The Montreal Arms just after the tiles were ripped down in March last year

Mr Southall said: “The proposal aims to balance the need for structural repairs with the preservation of the building’s heritage. Key heritage features, such as the tiled facade, will be replicated with materials matching the originals in size, color, and finish.

“Our proposed scheme detailed how damaged ceramic moldings would be scanned and replicated, to create a new tiled facade using exact match replica tiles from the original building.

“This approach maintains architectural integrity while enhancing the building’s utility for future use. The Heritage Report acknowledges that while the building has historical value, its current deteriorated state necessitates major repairs and rebuilding to bring it back into safe use.”

He added: “The combination of prolonged closure, licensing difficulties, detailed marketing efforts, and community opposition strongly supports the argument that reopening the Montreal Arms as a pub is not viable.

“The extensive evidence provided demonstrates that the public house use is not economically viable and that alternative community uses are both necessary and more beneficial.

“The comprehensive viability report and proposed alternative community uses demonstrate that the public house use is not economically viable and that the alternative uses will maintain the building’s role as an ACV [asset of community value].”

The appeal statement cites a ruling by Judge Neville, dismissing Mr Southall’s appeal against the pub being designated an asset of community value by Brighton and Hove City Council in November last year.

Judge Neville accepted it was possible the application from a hastily-assembled community group, the Friends of the Montreal Arms, was probably not purely motivated by the loss of the pub as a business.

He said: “I pay tribute to the meticulous and constructive way in which Mr Southall, on behalf of Dragonfly, has pursued this appeal.

“There is some force to his submissions that the original nomination was motivated, at least in part, by irrelevant concerns such as the building’s appearance and views on residential development in general, and even personal animus.”

However, he noted that the council’s own surveyors disputed a finding by a structural engineer appointed by Mr Southall which said the pub needed significant structural work to reopen.

And he said the industry expert who gave evidence on behalf of Mr Southall, Patrick Walker, was not impartial and his outlook was sometimes “myopic”.

He ruled that though it was unrealistic to say the pub could be successfully reopened under the same model as before – tied to a brewery – it was realistic it could be opened under a different model.

He cited The Bevy in Bevendean, adding: “Not only might a community group or individual be willing to bear a pub as a loss-making venture, some pubs are opened as a retail outlet for micro and small breweries.

“While these face similar challenges to the larger chains of the sort Mr Walker describes, they have been less hard hit.

“Likewise, some small and independent pubs strike deals with local takeaways and restaurants rather than run their own kitchens – the notion that a kitchen is necessary to survive is not representative of the many and varied pubs operating in the UK.

“There is a realistic chance that the use I have described would add value to the community distinct from that offered by other nearby pubs and the local church hall. While The Bevy has faced existential commercial obstacles, it has still operated for a while.”

The appeal was lodged on 4 July, a month after the pub restoration plans were approved, and two months after the cafe scheme plans were rejected.

Mr Southall has requested the appeal be heard at a public meeting, which would lengthen the time it would take to process.

The council has written to the planning inspectorate to say it is more appropriate that it should be heard via written correspondence, as the level of local interest is not high enough to justify a hearing.

The public are able to make comments on the appeal before 14 August. To make a representation, click here.

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Comments 17

  1. Benjamin says:
    2 years ago

    I wouldn’t use The Bevy as a viable business model. That place seems to be holding a fundraiser every other week to stay afloat.

    Reply
  2. Flappy Pigeon says:
    2 years ago

    Jesus Christ Jo, you’re really obsessed with this poor bloke aren’t you? Either ask him out on a date or give it a rest because this is all starting to get a bit Baby Reindeer.

    Reply
    • Sal says:
      2 years ago

      Give over! This guy vandalised a prominent and well-love building in our community, apparently in a fit of pique. Don’t stop covering this Jo until it’s all sorted out. And please don’t be deterred by any pressure or bully-boy tactics.

      Reply
      • Realist says:
        2 years ago

        Well lived building in the community haha my auntie used to run the pub when it was open and had to close it due to the building virtually falling down and the lack of people drinking in it. Perhaps all the “locals” that have been constantly moaning had drunk in there when it was open could have kept the pub afloat. And as for the bevy Jesus that’s clutching at straws, pub been done for racism, money going missing great example

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    • Benjamin says:
      2 years ago

      I actually want to know how this story ends, in all honesty. Especially since his practices have been dishonest. A suspiciously new commentator could be interpreted in a certain light as well…

      Reply
    • Kreezly says:
      2 years ago

      Strange thing to say. Sounds suspiciously like you want to shame the author into burying the story.

      Independent journalism like this is really important and the nasty piece of work who vandalised the pub needs holding to account.

      Reply
      • Realist says:
        2 years ago

        Vandalised 🤦‍♂️

        Reply
    • Poor Richard says:
      2 years ago

      Mate, you couldn’t be more obvious if you tried. Just fix the pub…

      Reply
    • Gabe says:
      2 years ago

      Flappy Pigeon’s addition to the narrative is as ill conceived as the pub vandalism.

      Sadly, it’s another example of “John Gabriel’s Greater Internet Theory” which Flappy is invited to research via a search engine.

      Reply
    • Hanover Terence says:
      2 years ago

      Flappy Pigeon? Come on Southall. If you want to comment, use your own name.
      And stop dragging your heels and make good on your petulant vandalism.

      Reply
    • DS says:
      2 years ago

      Keep up the great work Jo, we all want to know what this chancer is up to.

      Reply
    • BobBob says:
      2 years ago

      bit flappy…

      Reply
    • Up to the eyeballs says:
      2 years ago

      Charlie Flappy Pigeon,even kay burley from sky news could see through charlsford,Brighton and Hove Council, please don’t cave in to this fly by night arrogant bellend,nobody in Brighton is standing with him on this,replace the tiles, sell up and do one .

      Reply
  3. Ann E Nicky says:
    2 years ago

    The building appears to be in such a poor state of repair due to this gentleman’s lack of action. The “industry expert” appears risable and the adjudicator sussed him out. Either get on and do the work as ordered, face the consequences or sell it as a tax-deductible loss! Time for the Council to grow some and stop the prevarication and further vandalism.

    Reply
    • SussexTech22 says:
      2 years ago

      +1

      Reply
  4. Gareth says:
    2 years ago

    This “property developer” sounds like a crook. A quick look online confirms it.

    Reply
  5. Annie says:
    2 years ago

    Be careful what you wish for, Hanover. The pub had gone bust and was sold as a development opportunity. Why delay the inevitable and oppose what is actually a lovely proposal for the site (which, by the way, includes replacement green tiles)? Do you all really want that run-down, stinky corner boozer back?

    Reply

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