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Developer’s survey on gasworks plans slammed as ‘manipulative’ and ‘biased’

Residents criticise a survey gathering data on the proposals for Brighton gasworks

by Felice Southwell
Wednesday 24 Apr, 2024 at 12:49PM
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Developer’s survey on gasworks plans slammed as ‘manipulative’ and ‘biased’

A new survey on proposals for a disused gasworks site in east Brighton has been slammed as “manipulative” and “deeply flawed”.

The privately hosted survey asks questions about the proposed development of the old Brighton gasworks site, near Brighton Marina, by developer St William.

Plans to build 495 homes on five acres – or two hectares – of land in Marina Way, south of Roedean Road, are due to be discussed by councillors on the council’s Planning Committee next month on Wednesday 22 May.

But residents said that the questions in the survey, which gather data on what kind of priorities residents have for any development, offered no opportunity to comment or provide feedback on the plans.

The survey’s last page provides a link to the council’s planning portal and encourages people to officially lodge a comment on plans.

Stephen White, member of campaign group Action on Gasworks Housing Affordability, Safety and Transparency (AGHAST), said: “We feel it’s rigged.

“If they’d actually asked for our opinion, genuinely, at the beginning before they actually designed this monstrosity, it would have been a great deal better.

“They say on this survey that it’ll bring more homes to your area, but what they don’t say is that they’ll be unaffordable for local people and that they’re primarily aimed at investors, many of them abroad.

“I think maybe they are a little bit rattled by the strength and size of the opposition to this planning application.

“It is pretty unprecedented to get that many and people feel very passionately about it.”

Resident Alan Hiscutt said: “This is a deeply flawed survey intended to give a biased response.

“The city needs more housing for social rent, as well as so-called affordable housing and this development needs to supplement public transport, cycling and walking options to prevent even more overload on our roads and existing public transport.”

Resident Beccy Smith said: “How are you supposed to be able to ‘give your view’ when there’s no space to voice concerns about this development?

“The whole thing is misrepresented in here: 495 mostly one and two-bedroom flats squished into a two hectare site, not meeting local housing need for family homes, going against the adopted city plan, no affordable housing secured, 95-year leases that’ll make these properties unsellable, marketing targeting overseas investors not local people.

“And don’t get me started on the risks of contamination and what people living around Berkeley’s other gasworks sites have endured.

“It’s a manipulative, dishonest ‘survey’.”

The Give My View survey.

The Give My View platform advertises itself as using “gamification to reach diverse and younger audiences.”

Berkeley Group set up St William in 2014 as a joint venture with the National Grid to redevelop old gasworks sites across the country and clean the contaminated land. Berkeley bought out the National Grid’s half share two years ago.

St William said: “The survey aims to raise awareness of the plans for the former Brighton gasworks site and asks people for their general views on development in the city.

“It invites people to share their views directly with the council, and full details about the proposals are available on the council’s website under planning application reference BH2021/04167.”

The planning application for the development, originally submitted in 2021, currently has 1,517 comments objecting to the plans, with only 53 comments supporting the proposal.

A number of councillors have also objected to the proposals, including Councillor Gill Williams, who represents Whitehawk and Marina ward, and Councillor Bridget Fishleigh, who represents Rottingdean and West Saltdean.

In January this year, St William updated its plans, reducing the number of homes in the design by 70 from 565 to 495, reducing the height of buildings on the north of the site, and adding solar panels site-wide.

To read and comment on the full application, click here.

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Comments 18

  1. Kels says:
    1 year ago

    Are they all affordable for low income locals? I hope so!!!

    Reply
  2. Gareth says:
    1 year ago

    I came across the developers “survey” on social media. They don’t even show you the proposed scheme, it comes across as manipulative propaganda from the developers.

    Reply
  3. Elena says:
    1 year ago

    I totally second the comments made by Stephen White. This is a flimsy attempt at manipulation by St William against overwhelming opposition from existing residents. Some residents would live only 12 metres from the site on which polluting forever chemicals would be dumped in piles to “off gas”. OUTRAGEOUS!

    Reply
  4. Mark Fry says:
    1 year ago

    Whinging boomers gonna whinge.

    What we need to do is publish the names and addresses of objectors, so we can find out who the freeloaders are stealing the homes and lives of the next generation.

    They are going to be in for a shock now the incoming government is focused on working millennials and gen Z who have nothing but a life of hardship and no retirement ahead of them thanks to the selfish actions of the boomerati and nimby’s.

    Now their beloved racist homophobic bigoted Tory party are being removed from England just as they have been removed from Scotland, the boomers will now be seen and not heard, as they should be, not ruining the lives of tens of millions and forcing the birth rate down to negative numbers because no one can even afford a single child.

    Reply
    • Barry Johnson says:
      1 year ago

      You sound like you need help to forgive your parents for having you, Mark Fry. Or maybe you should sue.

      Reply
      • Mark Fry says:
        1 year ago

        Maybe you should be seen and not heard, or will will means test your pension and charge your excessive healthcare to a charge on your estate.

        Reply
    • Up to the eyeballs says:
      1 year ago

      What are you going to do with the addresses you get?

      Reply
  5. fed-up-with-brighton-politics says:
    1 year ago

    Is this the same Mark Fry, sometime mortgage broker and marketing executive, who launched a similar diatribe on the Brighton Society’s website a long time ago? If so, the least you could do is declare a business interest in this subject?

    Reply
    • Mark Fry says:
      1 year ago

      Back to bed boomer, we don’t want another weekend of bedwetting thank you.

      And put some clothes on you burden.

      Reply
  6. fed-up-with-brighton-politics says:
    1 year ago

    The latest DVS report has just appeared on the Planning Portal. Hefty old read, but one of their conclusions is “100% Market Housing not viable but will proceed anyway”; “100% Market Housing not viable, efficiencies will need to be made to be proceedable.” Presumably this means cutting some corners or clawing back the missing profit in some other way. And, at last, we get an idea of potential prices, ranging from over £300k for a studio (in today’s money but who knows what it would be once they were actually built) to roughly £500k or more for a 2 bed/4 person flat and over a million for a townhouse. On top of that there would obviously be service charges, council tax and, if you were lucky enough to get a scarce on-site parking permit, then there appears to be a charge for that too.
    Most, if not all, of the external reports commissioned by BHCC to test the developer’s statements on things such as wind, daylight and sunlight, both concerning the dwellings in the proposed development and surrounding properties, acknowledge that they have made desk-based studies only and have not been to the site. The lived experience of many surrounding residents is very different (i.e. worse) from these computerised projections and, hopefully, the Planning Committee will actually go to the site and experience it for themselves – perhaps on a wet and windy day!
    Returning to the 14 terraced townhouses, they are shown as having gardens, which the Building Research Establishment (BRE), acting for the Council, has now assessed for sunlight in gardens as well as updating the forecasts for rooms, concluding that, according to the standard criterion used, (at least 2 hours sunlight on 21 March) even fewer of the living areas would now meet the minimum guidelines. 24 would not meet them, compared to 8 rooms previously. As for the gardens, just one would meet the minimum guideline, but only just. There are quite a few other issues involving light – or, more accurately, darkness – both in the development itself and its surroundings, which, as with the proposal for 9 tower blocks in the Outer Harbour area of the Marina (rejected by the Council, the Planning Inspectorate and the Secretary of State in 2021) has light issues because of the developers’ attempts at cramming as many small units as they can get away with into a densely-packed conglomeration of tall buildings. The Gasworks site is not even in an area designated by the Council as suitable for tall buildings.
    The Council has been shown indicative drawings by objectors (as a discussion point rather than an actual proposal), which would still deliver a large number of homes, but in a much lower – rise configuration. This would eliminate the need for the very deep and intrusive piling proposed by the developer – the site is on a cliff-top after all – and it seems that the site could be capped, leaving the contaminants undisturbed, as they have been for many years with no discernible harmful effects on locals. The developer isn’t, of course, in the slightest bit interested in considering or looking at a less harmful, much quicker and cheaper solution. They have barely deviated from their ’vision’ for the site in nearly four years and show no inclination of doing so. Before the usual accusations of ‘nimbyism’ start flying again, most reasonable objectors have made it absolutely clear that they want the site to be developed but favour a lower-rise, safer and quicker option, with homes that genuine locals might be able to afford. We are talking about a development that fosters a sense of community and which has light and space, not a tiered rest home for moribund pit ponies. The developer isn’t proposing ‘homes’ at all – just expensive, luxury and ugly boxes of varying shapes and sizes, much like Sirius and Orion in the Marina, where virtually all emphasis is on the ‘glamour’, with prices to match. It would be interesting to know how many of those are holiday lets rather than genuine ‘homes’.
    Additionally, this is not about ‘boomers’ and ‘nimbyism’, with critics trying to promote the stereotypical and flawed idea that objectors to the proposal are affluent, all own their own nice homes and are stifling the chances of the younger generation. Quite a few objectors are renters who could not remotely afford one of these luxury high rise boxes even if they wanted one. And some of us have mortgages that would make your eyes bleed.

    Reply
    • Dingo says:
      1 year ago

      It’s a free market, if the prices are to expensive, the flats won’t sell and the prices will reduce. Just because some people cannot afford does not mean all people can not afford.

      The less new flats that a built the higher the prices across the city will be. Get them built and stop moaning.

      Reply
  7. Chris says:
    1 year ago

    Ghetto in the making, and will still be built on top of the main gas reservoir for east Brighton.
    I wonder if that will be on the estate agent adverts…

    Reply
  8. Barry Johnson says:
    1 year ago

    From the Council school of sham consultations it would seem. Though you’d need a health warning and danger money to live there with all that hazardous waste beneath. No thanks.

    Reply
    • Mark Fry says:
      1 year ago

      Go away then and do the whole city a favour. And take the rest of your kind with you greyster.

      Reply
      • Up to the eyeballs says:
        1 year ago

        Fair play to sick of Brighton politics, he blew you out of the water there,you seem to be the moaner her.

        Reply
      • Barry Johnson says:
        1 year ago

        Speaks the troll without bridge portfolio. Lovely.

        Reply
  9. Tim says:
    1 year ago

    Mark Fry – a dud and dubious commenter. Insulting others here does nothing but show your bias. Sad little person.

    Reply
  10. Mark Fry says:
    1 year ago

    Dribbled the betwetters

    Reply

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