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Hundreds of bus gate tickets ‘wrongly issued’

by Jo Wadsworth
Wednesday 14 Jul, 2021 at 1:00PM
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Council issues 5k warning notices over new Valley Gardens bus gate in first month

The bus gate at the bottom of Trafalgar Street

The bus gate at the bottom of Trafalgar Street

Hundreds of tickets have been wrongly issued to people who drove through the Valley Gardens bus gates because of a technicality.

Since January, Brighton and Hove City Council has been fining people driving through bus gates on the A23 at the bottom of North Road and Trafalgar Street and at the entry to St Peter’s Place.

However, several motorists have appealed to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, and a handful have been successful because of the way the original traffic regulation order (TRO) was drafted.

Instead of a length of road, the wording only specifies a single point, which means that under current UK law, it can only be enforced by police as a moving traffic offence – although this is set to change.

The council has now reworded the TRO to specify the exact area vehicles are not allowed to drive through, which came into force on June 9 for the two on the A23, and June 18 for St Peter’s Place.

However, any tickets given to motorists before the TROs were amended now have a much better chance of being overturned on appeal – if they have not been paid.

One motorist successfully appealed a ticket he was given for driving through the Gloucester Place gate.

Adjudicator Deborah Gibson, wrote to him upholding his appeal. She said the term bus gate is interchangeable with bus lane in terms of enforcement – but the way the TRO was worded meant they weren’t technically a bus lane.

It says: “The problem is that the TRO does not apply the restriction to any area of road. It applies to a single point.

“Most bus lanes are defined as applying to between specified points, or for example a specified distance from a specified point.

“This alleged bus lane applies to vehicles travelling in particular directions, but not over any specified area of road.

“It follows that I consider the restriction is validly made and may be enforced as a moving traffic contravention but not as bus lane contravention . . . the council has no power to issue this PCN.”

The council was asked how many tickets had been issued in these locations and had not replied at the time of publication.

However, in October last year, it told Brighton and Hove News it had issued 5,000 warning notices in the first month the A23 bus gates went live.

And a Freedom of Information request revealed more than 800 tickets had been issued from January 8 to 15 June this year at the St Peter’s Place camera – which anecdotally is less confusing than the A23 ones.

Of these, just seven were appealed, three of which were upheld, three not contested by the council, and one resolved with a consent order – i.e. the appeal was closed after an agreement between the council and the motorist.

A council spokesperson said: “The bus gates in Valley Gardens are an important part of our traffic management strategy in this busy area of the city.

“All our signage in the area telling people about the bus gate and access restrictions meets legal requirements.

“Ahead of enforcement we issued warning notices to motorists letting them know of the new restrictions and that they could be issued with a penalty charge notice (PCN) in the future.

“We have also communicated with local businesses in the area about the road layout to pass onto suppliers and others making deliveries / collections.

“Anyone issued a PCN has the right to appeal and can do so through the council’s website.

“The issue highlighted by the Traffic Adjudicator in this instance centred on a technical aspect of the wording of the traffic regulation.

“We assessed this and have amended the wording to clarify the restriction in place.

“This has had no effect on previous or ongoing enforcement, and we are continuing to issue penalty charge notices.”

Bus lane or gate fines must be challenged with the city council first, and motorists have 28 days to do this.

If the council upholds the fine, the motorist has a further 28 days to appeal to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal.

If a motorist has paid the fine, they can no longer appeal it.

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Comments 20

  1. Serena Evans says:
    2 years ago

    There is no Bus Gate in the Highway Code.
    All tickets fraudulently issued.
    A blatant exercise in profiteering by BHCC.

    Reply
    • Jo Wadsworth says:
      2 years ago

      Hi Serena, the adjudicator specifically said that the terms bus gates and bus lanes are interchangeable in terms of enforcement.

      Reply
    • AlexG says:
      2 years ago

      The Highway Code is not a legal document. It is advice drawing on other documents which are legally enforceable. Don’t assume that if it is or isn’t in the Highway Code than its legal. Also Highway law changes frequently so an out of date copy of the Highway Code is pretty useless anyway.

      Reply
  2. Greens Out says:
    2 years ago

    More incompetence from this utterly inept council.

    Reply
  3. Simon says:
    2 years ago

    To me a “Bus Gate” should be something physical, i.e a gate… If its just a sign that could be missed especially by a poor unsuspecting motorist that has lost their way or does not know the town layout and is not given sufficient warning or opportunity to not drive through the “gate” then that seems unfair, and a moneymaking scheme on the councils part. I suppose if someone reaches a gate and then reverses back up the road without passing it then that is more acceptable and would not result in a fine? Although to me seems more dangerous than a one time mis-demeanor which should be a written warning on first offence, repeat offenders deserve fines as they are obviously gaming the system but penalising someone for a mistake seems unfair and they should at least be warned the first time (ideally as swiftly as possible).

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    • Some Guy says:
      2 years ago

      “poor unsuspecting motorist” You realise you’re responsible for where you put your car, right?
      I find the “it’s just a money making scheme” argument infuriating for the most part. It doesn’t exactly matter whether the council are completely altruistic, greedy to a fault, or anywhere inbetween. If you drive a car you should be driving it properly. The area is clearly marked, after all.

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    • AlexG says:
      2 years ago

      So how do you manage with no entry signs, no right turn signs, etc. Also at the ‘bus gates’ in Valley Gardens there is always another way to go, you can avoid going through the ‘bus gate/lane’ by just turning into Trafalgar St or back onto the east side of the gardens, there is no need to reverse.

      Reply
  4. Jason says:
    2 years ago

    What is a “bus gate”? Why can’t “our” councillors learn the English language?

    It’s the same with central government, always waffling on about “road maps” and “dashboards” among other meaningless terms.

    If these idiots can’t be bothered to learn our language, they should be disqualified from holding public office until they achieve a reasonable degree of literacy.

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  5. garry COOPER says:
    2 years ago

    just my luck the last line was -If a motorist has paid the fine, they can no longer appeal it. I was one of them caught twice ive since realized that the gate is the yellow box at the bottom of North Rd. as you turn at the bottom of Church St on the road it states buses and access well i required access to the bottom of Gloucester Rd so i was caught twice and respectfully paid twice,i now know i could have gone past the King & Queen kept left at the bike racks and gone across both lanes at the bottom of North Rd . Just a Money making project that the council planted on unsuspecting motorists while everything is new in the area

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  6. Nicolas says:
    2 years ago

    I was visiting Brighton and when leaving was following road markings for the A23 and ended up in the bus gate inadvertently and could not get out of it! Really badly signposted, I did not realise I was in a restricted lane until I was in it! I feel that the fine I’ve received is completely unfair and intend to never visit Brighton again!

    Reply
    • Robert Proctor says:
      2 years ago

      I had exactly the same experience.

      Reply
  7. Hove Guy says:
    2 years ago

    Another example of Ripoff Brighton. Everything the council does is about making money. A friend of mine has a shop in the Lanes and he told me that all rubbish must be put into special bags bought from the council. Well, for five weeks these “Green” bags have been unavailable. When he inquired if he could just use an ordinary rubbish bag, he was told that he could not, and iff he did so, he would be fined. So, he, and others in the area, have had to drive to the local tip with their rubbish instead. How is that for caring about the environment, let alone giving consideration to shopkeepers who have had a very difficult time during the pandemic, and are struggling to get back to normal?.
    That same shopkeeper was recently fined, when an envelope, with his address on it, fell out of the rubbish bag, without him realising it until he was fined £400!
    The Greens are an utter hypocritical disaster, making a mess of everything they lay their grimy hands on. Let that be a warning to voters in other constituencies throughout the country, where the Greens are trying to gain control.

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  8. Mick says:
    2 years ago

    Entrapments that only the locals know how to avoid; shame on you, I hope you can sleep at night

    Reply
  9. Rebekah Sibley says:
    2 years ago

    Has anyone successfully appealed this unfair bus gate penalty? I’m going to appeal on the grounds of unclear signage, but if my appeal is unsuccessful I’m guessing that I’ll have to pay the full £60. I certainly won’t be visiting Brighton again now as worry that I’d do the same again as it’s so unclear.

    Reply
  10. Avril says:
    2 years ago

    Yes … I just received a ‘bus gate’ PCN…. As a visitor to the City I I had never heard of until now.. it has ruined my day!!!! it seems so unfair that the Council sent thousands of warnings to locals but it’s straight to PCN if you are a visitor ..!!

    Reply
  11. Patrick says:
    2 years ago

    These are specially and very meanly crafted local motorists traps, which continue into this year and that I am sure the local community suffers from equally, and must find a way to overcome and stop. This is a disgrace to your town. I paid an extra £30 for my first and last visit to Brighton as well, and until I see that this council out of the door and put to shame for this continuing arrogance. I got caught out at York place, the photo I was sent over the post had 4 cars in front of me, that’s 4 more penalties in 20 seconds I can see – appallingly insufficient and unclear road signage, a small separated strange sign which you may see once it’s too late. You can miss these even if you know about all of it, let alone driving through for the first time. Shame on Brighton

    Reply
  12. Richard Pringe says:
    2 years ago

    In poor weather and when following a bus there is very limited opportunity to see these signs. What’s wrong with a NO ENTRY sign with the exclusion for bus etc. Would that have been too easy? But it wouldn’t have netted so many, would it? This is a cynical money raiser in my view. I doubt if ths was ever agreed in its present form by elected members.

    Reply
  13. Jason says:
    2 years ago

    The “greens” aren’t as green as they think we are.

    All this money coming in, and what are they doing with it? Most people assume it’s the council’s job to look after the town – – – oops! I meant “city” of course (or something that rhymes with city).

    Madeira Drive arches for one, left to collapse while taxpayers’ money is wasted on monstrosities like the loss-making doughnut-on-a-stick where the deliberately-destroyed West pier once stood, and I’m sure people could come up with many more examples of neglect and doubtful practices.

    Stop pandering to your already-wealthy friends, BHCC, and start doing what THE PEOPLE expect of you.

    Reply
  14. Tim Morris says:
    2 years ago

    Same experience here, visit to Brighton and on the return following A23, the main road London, I’m expected to turn left down a back alley but instead went striaght on the ‘main road’ through the “Bus gate” which I didn’t see. Thanks Brighton Council for being such stitch up robbers.

    Reply
  15. Aj says:
    11 months ago

    The Greens want to get rid of motorists altogether so are destroying Brighton by making sure you are either conned as you drive or have to take out a second mortgage to pay for parking. Is it actually feasible to cycle in to Brighton from rural areas??? Let alone try and get a train- my son goes to college in Brighton by train every day and probably three days out of five his train is cancelled. I used to like shopping in Brighton but after my recent bus gate fine will shop online instead . I feel sorry for Brighton businesses ( or are they getting a share of the million pounds this busgate scheme has raised? I’d actually hope so). Most people I know will never go to Brighton now. Shame

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