Tips may ask for proof of ID – and charge for some rubbish

Tips may start charging for some types of rubbish and ask everyone who uses them to prove that they live in Brighton and Hove.

Councillors are looking at charging people to dispose of soil, tyres and building waste at the tips off Old Shoreham Road, Hove, and Wilson Avenue, Brighton.

Several councils already charge people to dispose of some waste – and demand proof of identity (ID) to ensure that those who bring any rubbish to a tip come from the local area.

Brighton and Hove City Council said: “Anecdotal feedback suggests the Hove site is busier on Mondays and Tuesdays when West Sussex’s Shoreham site is closed.”

West Sussex County Council already carries out ID checks and East Sussex County Council charges £2 a tyre and £4 a bag for rubble, soil, plasterboard and asbestos.

A report to Brighton and Hove councillors said: “Presently, checks only take place for van users to ensure they are residents of the city and to ensure they are not disposing of trade waste.

“Introducing ID checks for all users will ensure it is only residents of Brighton and Hove using the sites.

“Checks routinely take place at West Sussex County Council sites.

“While a November 2019 residency check identified a small number of people crossing the city boundary to use the Brighton and Hove household waste recycling sites, it does mean our taxpayers are paying to dispose of non-Brighton and Hove residents’ waste.”

The report, to the council’s Environment, Transport and Sustainability Committee, said that ID checks were expected to ease traffic, especially at the tip in Hove.

As a result, the traffic marshalling could end – and cars and vans may once again be able to turn right into St Joseph’s Close from Old Shoreham Road.

The report also said that more than a third of councils already charged for “non-household” waste.

It added that bringing in charges “would align Brighton and Hove City Council with several close neighbours such as East Sussex, Kent and Surrey”.

The service would not be profit-making, according to the report, but was expected to bring savings of about £150,000 a year.

And it said that savings would be ringfenced and spent on “recycling initiatives such as plastics and food waste”.

When charges were brought in by East Sussex County Council two years ago, some were worried about an increase in fly-tipping but the number of incidents has remained roughly the same.

The report said: “Eight mobile CCTV cameras have been installed across the city to deter people from fly-tipping.

“The cameras will be used to identify fly-tipping of soil, hardcore, plasterboard, bonded asbestos and tyres.”

The report also said that the council was required to provide residents with reasonably accessible rubbish and recycling tips “for the free disposal of household waste”.

But it was not required to accept other types of waste without a fee, including the rubbish left over when people carried out building work, repairs and landscaping at home.

It currently did take other waste without a fee – and councillors are being asked to approve a consultation about the principle of charging for taking soil, hardcore, plasterboard, bonded asbestos and tyres.

The public consultation, if approved, would also ask about requiring everyone who took rubbish to the tips – not just van drivers – for proof of ID.

If councillors agree to a consultation, identity checks are planned during the consultation period to gather further data, with the aim of bringing all the results back before councillors in the spring.

The council’s Environment, Transport and Sustainability Committee is due to reach its decision at a “virtual” meeting starting at 4pm next Tuesday (24 November). The meeting is scheduled to be webcast on the council’s website.

  1. Sylvia Reply

    We should keep up with neighbouring councils as regard showing ID but charging for any sort rubbish will surely encourage fly tipping

  2. Helen Reply

    Whittling away what people can get rid of for free, and making it harder for them by demanding ID, will just make it more likely that some people fly tip. Just look at what already gets left by the communal bins. Waste collection and disposal is meant to be a public service, not a money-grubbing exercise.

  3. Rolivan Reply

    Surely it is an offence to put Asbestos in a rubble bag and take it to a tip,as it has to be properly contained.If The Environment Agency did their job and did more checks on Trades people not carrying an Environmental Trade Waste License then a lot of the problems would be solved.
    As for charging £4 for a bag of rubble or soil that seems rather expensive as it could be sold on.

  4. Billy Reply

    It’s slightly ironic that in the very week the council have failed to empty the bins in our road they are now making it more difficult for people to get into the tip.

    We’re also in lockdown and for some that will mean people are using spare time to decorate or to have a clear out, and that inevitably means more waste to be disposed of responsibly.
    Why make rubbish disposal so difficult? I already have to walk half a mile just to do my recycling.

    During the last lockdown the seafront bins were overflowing and the council blamed us for not taking our rubbish home with us. I pride myself in not creating much rubbish but right now I have a kitchen bin that is starting to smell and there’s nowhere to put a black bag unless I walk to find a communal bin.

    Something’s not right here. What am I paying council tax for, exactly?

  5. Tom Reply

    I used to use Shoreham all the time before they started ID checks as they’re open all day Saturday and Sunday.
    But why not just align opening times. Hove tip is deserted on weekdays so just open weekends and close Monday and Tuesday like West Sussex?

  6. Chaz Reply

    Thanks for this. I always wondered why Monday and Tuesday was so busy.
    As it is being abused sadly we have to deal with that.
    So bring in ID checks and help to stop the abuse.
    But co-ordinate with other tips to get the best out of all of them.

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