Brighton and Hove MPs rebuffed by Brexit Secretary

Posted On 25 Jan 2017 at 1:17 am

Two of the three MPs for Brighton and Hove were rebuffed by the Brexit Secretary David Davis in a House of Commons debate yesterday afternoon (Tuesday 24 January).

Cabinet minister Mr Davis, a long-serving Conservative MP, opened a debate about “article 50” – the legal device for triggering Britain’s exit from the European Union.

The debate followed a Supreme Court judgment which ruled that the government needed to pass a law in Parliament before it could invoke article 50 of the EU’s Lisbon Treaty.

The Green MP for Brighton Pavilion, Caroline Lucas, said after the judges’ verdict and the Commons debate yesterday: “Earlier today the government lost the case in the Supreme Court over whether Parliament should have a say over the triggering of article 50.

“This case is a win for parliamentary democracy and a blow for those ministers who planned to railroad Brexit through without any proper scrutiny.

“The spotlight now falls on MPs – and in particular the Labour Party – to properly scrutinise the government’s plans and act accordingly.

“That must mean that Labour rethink the support they’ve given to triggering article 50 prematurely and instead join those of us who refuse to be pushed into Theresa May’s artificial Brexit timetable.

“In the debate in Parliament today I urged the Brexit Minister, David Davis, to give an assurance that the final vote in the House of Commons would take place early enough to give a chance for further negotiations.”

Caroline Lucas

Caroline Lucas


In the Commons she said: “The final vote offered by the government on the negotiated package will not be meaningful unless they also guarantee that, if there is a vote against the withdrawal treaty, we will have an option to continue talks with the EU for a better deal rather than simply falling out with no deal at all.

“Can the Secretary of State guarantee that we will have that vote in time for such further discussion to happen?”

Mr Davis said: “That is of a piece with those arguments that say that we want to have a second referendum so that we can revisit this.

“What it does is to give a prize to somebody who is trying to put up the worst possible negotiation for us.

“There are plenty of members of the European Union that want to force us into changing our mind and going back inside and we do not want to do anything that allows or encourages that to happen.

“The honourable lady is not right to say that the vote is meaningless. For a start, the Select Committee and the Opposition both asked for it.

“In addition, it will be – I repeat this again – the last of many, many, many votes and debates on major legislation.”

Peter Kyle, the Labour MP for Hove, was also given a brush off. He said: “The Secretary of State reminded us that our job is to do what is in the best interest of our constituents.

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“The city I represent has 8.5 million visitors each year, has two universities and has an economy that includes the head offices of EDF and Amex.

“If I do not believe that, between now and March, the guarantees offered by this government will protect everything that is great about my city, surely the right honourable gentleman would agree with me that I cannot support this timescale.”

Mr Davis, who served as Europe Minister under John Major in the 1990s, said: “I am not about to protect the honourable gentleman from his constituents, I am afraid.

“My comment to him is this: we are in a negotiation. If he can point out to me a negotiation that had guarantees before it started, I would be interested to hear about it.”

  1. Dr David Hill Reply

    European Union
    31 March 2017 – A DATE SET IN INFAMY

    For after this date – Article 50 will be subject to the dreaded Qualified Majority Vote (QMV)…that is to say, we will have to persuade a total of 14 EU Member States to support our decision to leave. It is then part of EU Law and if we come out and they have not allowed it under EU law, they will be able to sue the UK to high heaven and in theory have the propensity to bankrupt the nation. Don’t believe me, do your own research and find out for yourself.

    For have you ever wondered why Teresa May has said that we will invoke article 50 by 31 March 2017 and not before or later?

    And ever wondered why our politicians who know what happens on 31st March 2017 have not told us the main reason?

    And ever wondered why mainstream media who also know what happens on 31 March 2017 is silent and not informing the British people?

    For at the moment (up to 31 March 2017), Article 50 allows an EU Member State to secede from the Union by giving two years notice to the relevant authorities – come out with no problems in disembarking from the EU.

    However, as from March 31st 2017 – a date just weeks away now – Article 50 will be subject to the dreaded Qualified Majority Vote (QMV)…that is to say, we will have to persuade a total of 14 EU Member States to support our decision to leave.

    Back in 2010, the EU rule was we could leave if we applied Article 50, or repealed the European Communities Act 1972. These two caveats still apply, but only till 31st March 2017, after which date these two pieces of legislation will require a QMV. And that is backed all the power of EU Law if we break what our politicians have signed us up too. Indeed, the very means to hold us all to ransom and basically impose such dire financial and economic penalties to theoretically bankrupt the UK.

    https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2016/06/29/fact-if-the-uk-doesnt-have-a-signed-deal-by-april-2017-brexit-is-in-grave-danger/

    The European Union ( EU ) is a long-term ‘Disaster’ waiting to happen over the next two-decades and therefore why should we the people pay for an ultimately failing system – especially when there is no accountability and the costs are astronomical and rising? – https://worldinnovationfoundation.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/the-european-union-eu-is-long-term.html

  2. Ian Lisseter Reply

    This is an old story that is not true. Article 50 has been published often enough that we are aware of what it says. There is no vote required from the other EU states for the UK to leave the EU. QMV will however be used to ratify the future relationship that the EU has with the UK after it leaves the EU.

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